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  Why Linux on the desktop will never catch on beyond neckbeards and the broke/poor.
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. said:You are completely wrong on this, doofus.

Whitelisting, Behavioral protection and generic signatures keep corporate networks clean.

There is no cure for stupid and there never will be, that's why so many people get infected with viruses.



Yeah because corporate machines never ever get infected. :lol:
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. said:Expect file to be dragged to appropriate location in pcmanfm and upon dropping, the file is extracted from the archive into that location.

Instead, severe crash (freeze) after dialog about lacking permissions.


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/884503


It's been known about since October 2011, yet the fix hasn't reached the repository yet.

What I don't understand is why aren't the fundamentals in Linux, like basic GUI functionality, untouchable so that stupid shit like this doesn't happen?

:nono: You know that Trevs don't like to fix shit. Why fix something if you can create another distribution.

Bug fixes are for pussies.
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. said:I was using a vanilla distribution of lubuntu 12.04 the other day. Drag and dropping from a zip file hangs the entire system to the point where you cannot use the mouse!

:facepalm:


The bug is listed here:


Expect file to be dragged to appropriate location in pcmanfm and upon dropping, the file is extracted from the archive into that location.

Instead, severe crash (freeze) after dialog about lacking permissions.


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/884503


It's been known about since October 2011, yet the fix hasn't reached the repository yet.

What I don't understand is why aren't the fundamentals in Linux, like basic GUI functionality, untouchable so that stupid shit like this doesn't happen?



So, if you drag, rather than the more normal copy/paste, a file from a zip file to a directory you don't have permissions for, it locks up?

Well, obviously windows doesn't use permissions on files, hence all the viruses, so that is a problem unlikely to strike windows.
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Ubuntu was the only shot linux has or ever will have at normalcy.


The ubuntu foundation got loaded up with mac fags, who instantly derailed ubuntu's success and turned it into a useless piece of shit with a Mac color scheme.


If you are still tinkering with it on a desktop, please kill yourself. Use something else FFS. If you really actually need linux for something, then you should be running a headless server with webmin and putty.
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. said:So, if you drag, rather than the more normal copy/paste, a file from a zip file to a directory you don't have permissions for, it locks up?

Well, obviously windows doesn't use permissions on files, hence all the viruses, so that is a problem unlikely to strike windows.



What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.
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. said:You are completely wrong on this, doofus.

Whitelisting, Behavioral protection and generic signatures keep corporate networks clean.

There is no cure for stupid and there never will be, that's why so many people get infected with viruses.



Yeah because corporate machines never ever get infected. :lol:



Competent IT can keep this from happening. If your network gets viruses and your top execs are not in a walled garden, you suck at IT Admin. Get a job flipping burgers. More prestigious and higher paying.
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. said: God, you smell like a used rubber
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. said:What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.



Good point. No one has ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death".
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. said:Ubuntu was the only shot linux has or ever will have at normalcy.


The ubuntu foundation got loaded up with mac fags, who instantly derailed ubuntu's success and turned it into a useless piece of shit with a Mac color scheme.


If you are still tinkering with it on a desktop, please kill yourself. Use something else FFS. If you really actually need linux for something, then you should be running a headless server with webmin and putty.



Linux Mint doesnt look too bad.
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. said:Good point. No one has ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death".



At least it is a point.

Lets imagine for a moment Windows doesn't exist. Neither does OSX. Linux is it, right?

So, what's your opinion on a total system crash when dragging and dropping a file? Is this a good thing?
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. said:Ubuntu was the only shot linux has or ever will have at normalcy.


The ubuntu foundation got loaded up with mac fags, who instantly derailed ubuntu's success and turned it into a useless piece of shit with a Mac color scheme.


If you are still tinkering with it on a desktop, please kill yourself. Use something else FFS. If you really actually need linux for something, then you should be running a headless server with webmin and putty.



Linux Mint doesnt look too bad.





Its just as fucked up, and run by a megalomaniac. Don't invest yourself, don't bother.
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. said:Competent IT can keep this from happening. If your network gets viruses and your top execs are not in a walled garden, you suck at IT Admin. Get a job flipping burgers. More prestigious and higher paying.



But what if we don't have a corporate IT department at home? Wouldn't it be easier to just run Linux?
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. said:But what if we don't have a corporate IT department at home? Wouldn't it be easier to just run Linux?



Exactly.

Your wife and kids will be MUCH happier with Linux than they EVER would be with the user-experience on Winblows.


Oh, shit.

Did I just imply you've ever had sex?

Damnb.

My bad...
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. said:So, if you drag, rather than the more normal copy/paste, a file from a zip file to a directory you don't have permissions for, it locks up?

Well, obviously windows doesn't use permissions on files, hence all the viruses, so that is a problem unlikely to strike windows.



What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.



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This.

I was the poster that mentioned this bug.

The permissions part is a false bullshit error that the system throws up as it fails. It happens when you try to extract from ANY zipfile to ANY folder, regardless of permission status.

Either way, it's totally unacceptable that such a basic operation can lead to a system crash.
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. said:What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.



Good point. No one has ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death".



Please demonstrate a BSOD bug that can be reliably reproduced by copying a file from one window to another.
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This.

I was the poster that mentioned this bug.

The permissions part is a false bullshit error that the system throws up as it fails. It happens when you try to extract from ANY zipfile to ANY folder, regardless of permission status.

Either way, it's totally unacceptable that such a basic operation can lead to a system crash.



Uh, I know you only have experience with windows, but you are aware that Linux really does have file permissions?
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. said:Please demonstrate a BSOD bug that can be reliably reproduced by copying a file from one window to another.



Your example was a drag and drop, not a copy/paste.

Here's a typical windows user experience:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/308014-31-bsod-pleas-spent-cash-nowhere

ok so this is the case i bought this pc and put it together. MB is Asus crosshair IV Extreme, 4x 2 gig ddr3 1600 OCZ 7-8-8 @ 1.35v ram, HT Omega Claro plus soundcard, AMD Phenom x6 1100T cpu,LG Blue ray drive, sony dvd drive, 3 x WD caviear black 1 tb hdd, Thermaltake Toughpower 1000watt PSU. built it was either not posting or get bsod, so i tried each ram in ea dim had some issues replaced ram computer when turned on case lights flash and then it would shut off so replaced MB, this time posted but as soon as adobe flash was installed BSOD anytime i ran any video, and other BSOD's still same BSOD error as posted up top, thought it was drivers for HD 6850s cf so i changed drivers still same issue so i tried 1 6850 and same issue so i went out and bought a EVGA GTX 580 and mind you did clean install of windows 7 64bit( forgot to mention that every time i swapped something out i always did fresh install,) pc worked fine until all of a sudden steam games like crysis would crash on me. so i went to go update drivers then i gott the same BSOD error message. so thouhgt HDD was going bad swapped all them out and did HDD drive test with another computer and installed a new hdd well the other hdd tested fine and my new hdd worked but now anytime i try to install directx or other drivers i get that BSOD. FML what is the deal i thought maybe my optical drive is not reading windows install disk or windows install disk is messed up so i hooked up another DVD drive that i know works and used another windows cd and installled again. hey what do you know BSOD is back. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Someboddy help me i mean what is the deal here i have built 5 pcs and none have any issues except 1 had a mb doa but after that it worked. Microsoft is of no help OBVIOUSLY. so can anybody help me
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. said:^
This.

I was the poster that mentioned this bug.

The permissions part is a false bullshit error that the system throws up as it fails. It happens when you try to extract from ANY zipfile to ANY folder, regardless of permission status.

Either way, it's totally unacceptable that such a basic operation can lead to a system crash.



Uh, I know you only have experience with windows, but you are aware that Linux really does have file permissions?
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Can you just get on with fixing this EIGHT MONTH OLD high status bug please, Trev?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/878993
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. said:Please demonstrate a BSOD bug that can be reliably reproduced by copying a file from one window to another.



Your example was a drag and drop, not a copy/paste.

Here's a typical windows user experience:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/308014-31-bsod-pleas-spent-cash-nowhere

ok so this is the case i bought this pc and put it together. MB is Asus crosshair IV Extreme, 4x 2 gig ddr3 1600 OCZ 7-8-8 @ 1.35v ram, HT Omega Claro plus soundcard, AMD Phenom x6 1100T cpu,LG Blue ray drive, sony dvd drive, 3 x WD caviear black 1 tb hdd, Thermaltake Toughpower 1000watt PSU. built it was either not posting or get bsod, so i tried each ram in ea dim had some issues replaced ram computer when turned on case lights flash and then it would shut off so replaced MB, this time posted but as soon as adobe flash was installed BSOD anytime i ran any video, and other BSOD's still same BSOD error as posted up top, thought it was drivers for HD 6850s cf so i changed drivers still same issue so i tried 1 6850 and same issue so i went out and bought a EVGA GTX 580 and mind you did clean install of windows 7 64bit( forgot to mention that every time i swapped something out i always did fresh install,) pc worked fine until all of a sudden steam games like crysis would crash on me. so i went to go update drivers then i gott the same BSOD error message. so thouhgt HDD was going bad swapped all them out and did HDD drive test with another computer and installed a new hdd well the other hdd tested fine and my new hdd worked but now anytime i try to install directx or other drivers i get that BSOD. FML what is the deal i thought maybe my optical drive is not reading windows install disk or windows install disk is messed up so i hooked up another DVD drive that i know works and used another windows cd and installled again. hey what do you know BSOD is back. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Someboddy help me i mean what is the deal here i have built 5 pcs and none have any issues except 1 had a mb doa but after that it worked. Microsoft is of no help OBVIOUSLY. so can anybody help me



:facepalm:

That's a reproducible BSOD bug which affects everyone using the same version of Windows?

Thought not...

Think before replying next time, Trev.
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. said:What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.



Good point. No one has ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death".



Please demonstrate a BSOD bug that can be reliably reproduced by copying a file from one window to another.




If you run into file i/o problems like that its usually fucked up, shitty hardware in its death throes that causes it. Crappy mobo chipset, shitty hard drives, shitty un-tested RAM. Its happened to me many times. and all that busted shit will run any version of windows just fine, because windows doesn't care and will write bad sectors and corrupt itself and all your data.

Run linux on fucked up hardware, and it will either lockup or kernel panic. A user having a spare chromosome would naturally deduce with their limited mental faculties that this must be the fault of linux.
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. said: :facepalm:

That's a reproducible BSOD bug which affects everyone using the same version of Windows?

Thought not...

Think before replying next time, Trev.



Good point. Windows does the BSOD pretty randomly, the next person with the exact same configuration and Windows version might not have any problem.
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. said:What are you saying?

It's OK for Linux to suffer catastrophic crashes, because Windows isn't as secure?

So it doesn't matter if the brakes on your car fail, becuase mine has no locks on the doors?

:oldlol:

What an idiot.



Good point. No one has ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death".



Please demonstrate a BSOD bug that can be reliably reproduced by copying a file from one window to another.




If you run into file i/o problems like that its usually fucked up, shitty hardware in its death throes that causes it. Crappy mobo chipset, shitty hard drives, shitty un-tested RAM. Its happened to me many times. and all that busted shit will run any version of windows just fine, because windows doesn't care and will write bad sectors and corrupt itself and all your data.

Run linux on fucked up hardware, and it will either lockup or kernel panic. A user having a spare chromosome would naturally deduce with their limited mental faculties that this must be the fault of linux.



Wrong. It's a confirmed bug associated with pcmanfm that's been present since Ubuntu 11.10.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/878993

Are you too lazy to read these days, Trev?
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. said: :facepalm:

That's a reproducible BSOD bug which affects everyone using the same version of Windows?

Thought not...

Think before replying next time, Trev.



Good point. Windows does the BSOD pretty randomly, the next person with the exact same configuration and Windows version might not have any problem.



The BSOD jibes were relevant during the Win 9X era. Now? Not so much.

You should update your joke book at least once a decade, son.
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. said:Competent IT can keep this from happening. If your network gets viruses and your top execs are not in a walled garden, you suck at IT Admin. Get a job flipping burgers. More prestigious and higher paying.



But what if we don't have a corporate IT department at home? Wouldn't it be easier to just run Linux?



Go ahead and do that.

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. said:The BSOD jibes were relevant during the Win 9X era. Now? Not so much.

You should update your joke book at least once a decade, son.




:lol:

Microsoft marketing TOOK OUT blue screens because it was causing too much bad publicity. Thats why when the new versions of windows shit the bed they just reboot automatically.



NO MORE BLUE SCREENS!
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