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  Some Surprised By 'Clunker' Tax
clonker
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The Cash For Clunkers program is adding to the activity at treasurers' offices all around South Dakota. First, people were asking for proof of ownership, so they could show they owned their vehicle for a full year, allowing them to cash it in. Now, they'll be returning to register their new vehicle. And when they do, new owners need to bring every bit of paperwork provided to them by their dealer.

"That means they need their title, their damage disclosure, their bill of sale and the dealers have 30 days to get that to them," Minnehaha County Treasurer Pam Nelson said.

But many of those cashing in on the clunkers program are surprised when they get to the treasurer's office windows. That's because the government's rebate of up to $4500 dollars for every clunker is taxable.

"They didn't realize that would be taxable. A lot of people don't realize that. So they're not happy and kind of surprised when they find that out," Nelson said.

For now, the biggest impact of the program hasn't hit this office yet, as most of the paperwork is still in the hands of the dealers. But Nelson expects to see move activity in her office in the next month.

"I'm anxious to see what it's going to be like. I have no idea how many people we're going to see. Hopefully the dealers can process their paperwork in 30 days," Nelson said.

And that's when the line at this office will give some indication of how many cars the government program moved off of local lots.

Nelson adds that if you did recently purchase a vehicle, ensure your dealer gets you the paperwork in time because if they don't you could pay extra interest and penalties.
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Whut the hell? I get free muney and I gots ta pay taxes on it?
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PWNED!
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Look if they were told upfront it would be taxable, they would not have signed up for another $25K of debt.

What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public.
Electric_Lights
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:mittens:
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This reminds me of when Oprah gave away shitbox pontiacs to every member of her studio audience one day and they started bitching and moaning about paying the taxes on it.
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. said:This reminds me of when Oprah gave away shitbox pontiacs to every member of her studio audience one day and they started bitching and moaning about paying the taxes on it.

That was a classy move on oprahs part. :lol:

The rebates shouldn't be taxable. Why would the government give you money and then tax it?
threadkilla
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. said:Whut the hell? I get free muney and I gots ta pay taxes on it?
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PWNED!
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well you ain't a bank on fucking wallstreet so hell ya!
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. said:That was a classy move on oprahs part. :lol:

The rebates shouldn't be taxable. Why would the government give you money and then tax it?

Same shit happens if you hit the lotto. They give you money, then tax the shit out of it.
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missouri isn't charging taxes on the clunker rebates. Either you fucks are living in some very corrupt states or you are being fed a line of bullshit.
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. said:missouri isn't charging taxes on the clunker rebates. Either you fucks are living in some very corrupt states or you are being fed a line of bullshit.

A state has no say on federal income tax dumbshit motherfucker.
threadkilla
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. said:
. said:missouri isn't charging taxes on the clunker rebates. Either you fucks are living in some very corrupt states or you are being fed a line of bullshit.

A state has no say on federal income tax dumbshit motherfucker.




from what i've been able to find so far is it's a sales tax issue NOT an income tax issue.

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. said:A state has no say on federal income tax dumbshit motherfucker.



We're talking about state and local sales taxes, you don't report the clunkers rebate as taxable federal income. And you call me a dumbshit.
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threadkilla said:from what i've been able to find so far is it's a sales tax issue NOT an income tax issue.

The rebate is counted as income.
Electric_Lights
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Sactly. For example, you put on the title how much you sold the car for. If you want to "help a brotha out" when you sell him a car, you put that you sold it to him for $100 or whatever.
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threadkilla said:from what i've been able to find so far is it's a sales tax issue NOT an income tax issue.

Why is there a sales tax on a rebate? It's just another not well thought out loophole. Like destroying thousands of half way decent vehicles while leaving bailing wire and spray foam monstrosities on the roads.
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. said:Look if they were told upfront it would be taxable, they would not have signed up for another $25K of debt.

What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public.



Yeah, but the "government" isn't the one doing this - it's expressly written in the law that the rebate is not considered to be income.

What it sounds like is that certain states are still charging sales tax on it - which is something that the federal government have no control over.
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. said:We're talking about state and local sales taxes, you don't report the clunkers rebate as taxable federal income. And you call me a dumbshit.

At least TRY to know what you're talking about, you dumb motherfucker.

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/cash-clunkers-rebate-taxable-income-including-penalties
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But aren't the dealers getting the rebates? They are the ones bitching about not getting paid.
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. said:But aren't the dealers getting the rebates? They are the ones bitching about not getting paid.

The customer is getting the rebate from the dealer, and the dealer is getting the rebate from the government. Please try to follow along.
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GOD FUCK you people are stupid!
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. said:The rebate is counted as income.



No, it is specifically *not* treated as income - one of the sections of the act states that very specifically...
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. said:No, it is specifically *not* treated as income - one of the sections of the act states that very specifically...

Did you read anything in this fucking thread? Are you too stupid or lazy to google 'clunker rebate income tax'?
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. said:The customer is getting the rebate from the dealer, and the dealer is getting the rebate from the government. Please try to follow along.

I can't wait till someone discovers a whole shit-load of clunkers making it back onto the road. Then it'll really get messy.
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. said:
. said:We're talking about state and local sales taxes, you don't report the clunkers rebate as taxable federal income. And you call me a dumbshit.

At least TRY to know what you're talking about, you dumb motherfucker.

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/cash-clunkers-rebate-taxable-income-including-penalties



Why don't you take your own advice?

http://www.cars.gov/faq

"Is the credit subject to being taxed as income to the consumers that participate in the program?

NO. The CARS Act expressly provides that the credit is not income for the consumer."

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WRONG. That was changed the second time they passed the bill.

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